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Masochistic Onanism; or, the Futility of Online Communities


I had a post scheduled for today entitled “Why You Should Never Debate Leftists.” It was full of truly great zingers: statistical proof that leftists are unhappier than conservatives, hand-picked quotes from my enemies in which they talked about their antipsychotic abuse and suicide attempts, as well as some truly priceless lines. I guarantee that the bulk of you would have read it, enjoyed it, then spread it all over Twitter and Facebook, pushing up my hit counters and helping me sell more books.

You won’t be reading the post, because I just deleted it. Why?

From an objective standpoint, it was crap. Maybe not total crap—like I said, there were some good lines in there—but it was below my usual level of quality. I cranked it out as an “evergreen” piece that I could post during weeks I was feeling uninspired and still needed to produce articles for the blog. While I don’t expect everything I write to be supercalifragilisticexpialidocious, I realized that writing filler pieces like that would dilute the quality of my brand. While I have written in Confessions of an Online Hustler that “nobody expects you to hit a home run every time you step up to bat,” they aren’t expecting you to just sit like a lump and watch the balls whizz by either.

But I also deleted the post because it’s a pointless topic.

What exactly does another assembly line article on the psychopathology of the left contribute to the world? There are concepts and ideas in this vein that need to be explored, but the thing about these insights is that they’re rare. There’s not enough of them to justify multiple posts per week or even per month about the topic. And it’s not like this information is going to enhance anyone’s lives in any particular way. Most everyone who reads this kind of crap does it as a momentary distraction, a way of entertaining themselves, no different than drooling in front of the boob tube or getting seizures from the latest cookie-cutter shooter video game.

Excessively writing/reading about politics or feminism or current events is the intellectual equivalent of slicing your dick with a penknife while you jerk off. It’s nothing more than immersing yourself in a reality that makes you unhappy solely for a dopamine burst of “Ha ha, those people we disagree with sure are DUMB!” Even if you’re right, constantly having to re-affirm that you’re right is a wasteful and unhealthy activity.

Let’s get real: there’s no reason to constantly write (or read) missives on a particular ideology. When you first start out learning about a new skill or worldview (game, neoreaction etc.), you’re naturally going to want to consume all the information you can get. This is normal. But after a while, repeatedly scouring the same sites for rehashed takes on the exact same subjects doesn’t serve any purpose. Either you learn the material and move on, or you’re not smart enough to learn the material and you’re hopeless.

In both cases, you’re wasting your time.

Furthermore, sticking around in the same stagnant ideological pool warps you mentally. The water becomes dirty with feces and piss. The normal people slowly edge away, leaving behind the weirdos, who further retreat into their weirdness. Losing perspective on the world, the remaining swimmers become schizoid, developing increasingly elaborate excuses for why the world has rejected them and why they’re right about everything.

Let’s take neoreaction/the Dark Enlightenment as an example. Philosophically, I’m on board with neoreaction (well, the majority of it anyway). But what’s the point of repeatedly going to neoreactionary blogs, having neoreactionary debates, getting the neoreactionary take on every issue? It’s not like it’s some burgeoning field of science, with a new discovery coming out every week. Once you’ve digested, say, What is Neoreaction? as well as a couple of other blogs, you’ve basically learned all there is to know. The rest is just masturbation.

The same goes for any online community: the manosphere, feminism, Orthosphere, all of it. Once you’ve internalized a certain amount of info, anything more is just a waste of valuable time, like re-reading the same book over and over. Ideologically-focused online communities are glorified LARPing sessions for people who don’t have the social skills to hang out with actual D&D nerds. They bestow moronic titles on each other and fondle each others’ fleshy bits in lieu of doing anything real with their lives.

Then they scrub the blood and semen stains off their laptops so they can do it all over again.

Mike from Danger & Play told me a great bit of wisdom years ago: if what you’re writing about isn’t changing, it means YOU aren’t changing. I have no interest in playing or hearing the same three songs for the rest of my life. Does this mean I’ve changed my opinions? No. Does it mean I won’t ever write about these subjects ever again? No. It just means I don’t feel the need to restate them continuously just to tickle the loins of a bunch of people I don’t know in real life.

Online communities are useful for two purposes: learning and making connections with like-minded guys in the real world. And I don’t mean some stupid political scheme that will bring the wrath of the feds upon you; I mean just hanging out and having fun. Once you know all you need to know, it’s time to move on.

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  • WG

    No doubt this is all true. But it’s funny watching Matt start the process of disowning his previous work and disassociating himself from the Manosphere. I guess he’s trying to go mainstream.

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  • Left /Right? Anyone who buys into any of that is a fool , it’s all about divide, conquer and power. It’s all just used as a diversion, wise up.

  • Retrenched

    @ WG

    I don’t know if it’s that. It’s probably more that Matt is young, and when you’re young your worldview can change almost on a dime — or at least, it can change much more quickly than it generally does when you’re older.

    In my own life, my views and philosophy on things changed a lot between, say, 21 and 25, so I’m not surprised that Matt is a much different man today than the guy who wrote as Ferdinand Bardamu for all those years.

  • Mina

    Great article, agree completely. That’s why I took everything I learned and continue to learn about “the manosphere”, “ideology” and “neoreactionism”, etc and applied it to something real that will make a difference: fighting gun control.

  • “Furthermore, sticking around in the same stagnant ideological pool warps you mentally. The water becomes dirty with feces and piss.”

    Truth. What we need to build is an ideological sewage treatment plant. Purifying the filth rather than wallowing in it.

  • You should never delete anything.

  • hj

    “Most everyone who reads this kind of crap does it as a momentary distraction, a way of entertaining themselves, no different than drooling in front of the boob tube or getting seizures from the latest cookie-cutter shooter video game.”

    You just described my typical Friday night.

    [CensorBot sez: So sad for you.]

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  • Aaron

    All true and like the rest it has all been written before.

    I suppose the original logic was that PC derives it’s strength from the media. Since the media shapes public consciousness, the rise of alternative media would break the stranglehold. The profitability of bluechip media has taken a massive hit. Coincident with economic decline, feeling of disillusion towards feminism, immigrant riots in Europe, a revolution in consciousness could be just around the corner.

    Unfortunately it turns the internet is really, really good and churning out political porno, groupthink clickbait articles for outrage junkies, that people follow politics because they hunger for an identity for at least as any other reason, and that political factions are quite adept at reassigning blame for its failures to their political competitors. Read a HuffPo comment section and tell me if you feel anything but apathy towards everything. Towards America, white people, humanity, whatever. White people are going extinct? Hmmm… that’s cool, whatever man.

  • I came here and checked out some posts and ‘casts–the pointless attack on Mike Anissimov, investigating Sunshine Mary’s children… Matt is right. Like sand in the hourglass, so go the days of our lives. I won’t ever be back to add to the hit counter here, or spend a minute of my precious time. Best of luck.

  • baguazhang

    This is why I’m always shitting on left wing blogs, we need to take the fight to the enemy. That, and it keeps you updated on their antics, and supplies you with a fresh supply of things to bash. I recommend tumblr as the forefront of all leftist faggotry

  • Meh, I think it’s good to resubmerge yourself occasionally in the filth in order to continue the fight outside of the internet. Sure, blogging about sourdough is fun, but a lot of the time you need to retread the old paths in order to re-engage the young.