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There Are No Feminists in the Real World


You know the 4chan catchphrase “there are no women on the Internet”? On the surface, it seems ridiculous; of course there are women on the Internet. But if you dig deeper, you’ll figure out the saying’s true meaning.

Women have no power on the Internet.

Online, a woman’s greatest asset—her sexual power—is blunted, if not gone entirely. Oh sure, you still get chumps hanging off the words of “red pill women” and thirsty-ass chodes leaving sickening comments on girls’ Instagram selfies, but this is a world apart from the life-or-death power that all but the fattest, ugliest women wield in real life. On the Internet, you can confront obnoxious women, shut them down and run them out of town without consequences, behavior that would earn you a beatdown from the police and/or white knights in real life. The “misogynistic” culture in video gaming and the like that parasites like Anita Sarkeesian whine about is the result of women being unable to effectively wield their sexual power on the Internet.

The title of this post has the same meaning: feminists have no power in the real world.

I’m dead serious when I say this. Feminism peaked in the early nineties: ever since then, it’s been on a downward slope, overdue for a straight drop into the abyss of dead ideologies, sharing a tomb with the Shakers. The consternation we’re witnessing online from the Jizzabellers and blue pillers and social justice warriors is the last cry of the gazelle before it gets torn apart by the lions, meat for the young’uns.

Here’s why feminism will cease to be an important ideology in the next decade.

1. Feminists are rare in real life.

Portland, Oregon is the only city I’ve ever lived in where I was forced to deal with open, loud-and-proud feminists, and that’s only because the city is a magnet for degenerate layabouts. Everywhere else I’ve lived—New York, Vermont, North Dakota, Wisconsin—feminists are either nonexistent or so small in number that you’d have to specifically seek them out to get annoyed by them.

Hanging around losers is not what I consider to be a good use of my time.

This is part of the reason why I moved away from the MRA/MGTOW “ALL AMERICAN WOMEN ARE EVIL CUNTS DON’T GET MARRIED OR MARRY A THIRD-WORLD CHICK” rhetoric; it doesn’t survive a basic encounter with reality. While most girls are psychologically damaged, they’re not sperm-stealing, ball-cutting, Dworkin-quoting, hairy-pitted succubi. Most of them are just painfully deluded idiots, and you’ll forgive me if I don’t get FUCKING! PISSED! at people whose “crime” is being credulous morons.

The fact of the matter is that unless you’re in college, the only time you’ll regularly encounter feminists is… online, and that’s only if you specifically seek them out. If you enjoy bringing yourself down by reading Jezebel and the like, I can’t stop you, but I prefer to do better things with my time.

2. Feminists are cowards who tuck tail and run when the targets they harass fight back.

You might claim that the greater number of feminists compared to manospherians/red pillers gives them an advantage, but an army is only useful so long as it can be focused and organized.

And there’s the problem: feminists won’t lift a finger to help their fellow women when they’re in need.

Oh sure, when the odds are overwhelmingly in their favor, they’ll gang-stalk and harass manosphere bloggers, but if there’s the slightest chance that they might lose, the feminists always scatter like rats. In contrast, the manosphere functions as a unified front. Whenever a leftist goes after us, despite our differences, we close ranks and take up arms against the interlocutor. The attempted ABC smear piece on us is a case in point; I actually rekindled friendships with a couple of guys I’d cut off as a result of that incident, and our retaliation scared 20/20 so badly that they pulled the piece.

Silly girls, solidarity is for men.

A prime example of this is the recent attack on Return of Kings contributor Vincent Vinturi. When Sara C. Nelson got Vinturi’s book pulled from Amazon by falsely labeling it a “rape guide,” Roosh and company marshaled their efforts to strike back. A couple days later, Roosh posted an article rightly accusing Nelson of libel, which shot up to the top five on Google within hours, where it will ruin her future employment prospects (and potentially open her up for a lawsuit). This is all the more remarkable when you consider Vinturi’s books directly compete with Roosh’s, and the latter benefits in a small way from having the former’s pulled off the market.

While a number of feminists whined about Roosh’s efforts and accused him of being “paranoid,” not one of them tried to help Nelson in any substantive way. All those tough-talking Rabbit People left their fellow bunny to get eaten by the wolves. In fact, the only person who tried to defend Nelson and fight Roosh was… a man.

White knights are the only reason why feminists have any power, and those white knights are themselves cowards who fold at the first sign of danger. When Roosh recently confronted a white knight who’d been stalking him and falsely claiming he spreads STDs to girls, the little dweeb ran away and actually called the police because he was afraid Roosh would punch him. Deric Lostutter, the twerpazoid who led the Anonymous lynch mob on Steubenville, is currently looking at twenty years in federal prison for his pointless vigilantism.

The minute that the average white knight faces even the slightest consequence for his behavior, he pisses his pants and abandons the princesses he was so valiantly defending before.

You can see this pattern repeating itself not just in contemporary society, but throughout history: small forces defeating bigger ones through superior organization. Britain was able to dominate India, a nation of millions, with just 3,000 soldiers during the Victorian era because the local Indian princes were too busy slitting each others’ throats to unite against their common foe. White conservatives remain a potent force in American politics because they vote as a unified bloc, while the various interest groups in the Democratic Party are in an eternal pissing contest to determine who’s the most oppressed.

That’s why feminism is dying. While Tumblr social justice warriors are crying about “intersectionality” and trying to figure out whether cisgendered black lesbians have more privilege than transsexual straight white girls, the manosphere is growing, becoming more disciplined and more able to inflict harm on its enemies. We don’t need to outnumber them, we just need to hit them so hard on the first swing that they run for the hills.


3. Feminism has been doomed by demographics.

It’s a tiresome cliche, but it’s the truth: the future belongs to those who show up, and the left has permanently screwed themselves on this front. The most progressive/liberal groups in America, with the exception of Latinos, are failing to reproduce; the bulk of American babies are being born to white conservatives, specifically to hardline religious sects such as Mormons and Orthodox Jews. For the past thirty years, while Frankie Feminist has only had one or two Down’s-afflicted kids at the end of her thirties (after a good decade of riding the cock carousel), Callie Christian has cranked three, four, five or more healthy kids starting from her early twenties. This isn’t even considering the legions of liberal women who have declared themselves “childfree,” not knowing that their ideology will die with them.

In the war for the future, the feminists have screamed “Screw you guys, I’m going home!”

It’s awfully cute, the childlike faith leftists have in the inevitability of “progress.” Leftists have yet to face their impending extinction with any kind of seriousness, instead continuing to believe that things will keep going their way just because, or that all the kids being raised in these “evil,” “backwards” religions will break free and become good blue state gender-neutral carrots when they grow up. It’s not happening: studies have shown that the only religious denominations that are losing adherents in significant numbers are liberal ones. Much in the same way that overusing an antibiotic creates evolutionary pressure for resistant bacteria strains, conservative churchgoers have been increasingly selected for their unwillingness to stray from the faith.

Higher education has been the instrument through which the left has indoctrinated whole generations, and that house of cards is falling apart too. With the student loan scam going mainstream, fewer and fewer men are signing up for four years of pointlessness and the resultant loan debt. It’s why leftists have been trying to co-opt the debate, trying to claim that the real problem with college isn’t useless degrees, it’s the fact that it isn’t free. It’s why the New York Times is constantly running attack pieces on the North Dakota oil field, where able-bodied men can pull down five-figure salaries without so much as a high school diploma. The left is deathly afraid of a world in which people can earn a middle-class living without having to listen to four years’ worth of Marxist agitprop for a grade.

This is also why the left has become so adamant about giving amnesty to illegal aliens: without a fresh infusion of low-wage voters, the Democrats will be relegated to permanent minority status in twenty years. And even that will backfire on them. Feminism is still very much an ideology for white women; all those careerist gals being admonished to “Lean In” can only do so by outsourcing child care to illegal Mexican nannies who get paid less than minimum wage. In short, feminism can only succeed by empowering one group of women—whites—at the expense of all the others.

Do you really think that leftist Latinos will continue playing second fiddle to white feminists like Hillary Clinton as their electoral clout increases? It’s not happening, hombre.

We’re already seeing signs of this: white feminists are being kicked out of the left’s rainbow coalition all across the nation. The future of American politics is a black/brown left against a white right, with the white left getting sidelined.

So don’t get mad about feminists. Don’t engage them on an equal footing. Don’t bother trying to untangle the Gordian knot that is their ideology. And definitely don’t act like they’re any kind of threat. If a homeless guy accuses me of being a member of the Illuminati, I don’t stop and try and rationally argue with him, I walk by and laugh at what a deranged weirdo he is.

That’s what feminists are: the equivalent of schizophrenic bums. And the world is leaving them behind.

I’m not big on hard predictions, but I imagine many of us will be having conversations like this in a decade:

(MATT sits on his recliner, reading a book. DAUGHTER walks up to him, holding a copy of Trolling for a Living in one hand and a doll in the other.)

Daughter: Daddy, I was reading one of your books. What’s a feb-i-nist?

Matt: Wow, where did you find that? Been years since I’ve seen that book!

(MATT takes the book from DAUGHTER.)

Daughter: I found it in your upstairs bookcase!

Matt: Well, it’s actually fem-i-nist. Feminists were… um…. they were these really ugly and fat girls who were mean to everyone. Their daddies didn’t love them when they were kids, so they became really nasty grown-ups and everyone hated them.

(MATT stands up and mimics a large, lumbering wildebeest of a woman while grunting like a swine. DAUGHTER is visibly frightened.)

Daughter: Y… y… you love me right, Daddy? I don’t want to be a feb-i-nist when I grow up!

(DAUGHTER is about to start crying when MATT reaches down and hugs her.)

Matt: Of course I love you, sweetie. Now run along, your mother probably needs help with dinner.

Daughter: Okay, Daddy! I love you too!

(DAUGHTER bounces away towards the kitchen. MATT smiles and goes back to reading.)

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  • bourchakoun

    Ay ay! You are completely underestimating the whole system – the entire international money power is behind feminism ever since it’s very ugly KKK-eugenics-sympathizing beginning (even way before that if you count in Marxism).

    Of course it is a completely fake and artificial doctrine and in order to prop up a cardboard building it needs continuous maintenence and funding. Sure – in the end our system will win, but when? 100 years after the collapse of the Brave New World scenario of no-relationships and socially enforced promiscuity? Currently we are well under way – most efficient Red-Pillers will not settle down but continue cavorting happily into the sunset. The traditionals who will use evolutionary psychology to create happy and strong bonds will be few.

    I am afraid I side with Roissy – in a few decades there will be only sluts, Alpha-players and virtual-reality-obsessed celibate Betas/Omegas left. Apex-Alphas are all for this system!

  • Aquinas Dad

    “…the life-or-death power that all but the fattest, ugliest women wield in real life.”

  • Days of Broken Arrows

    What you’re saying is correct based on your experiences and examples. However, for parents or anyone who has been married, there are more forces at play then what you cite. Feminism is a major factor in the school system, has re-shaped the way most marriages work, and dominates family court.

    Women no longer need to be feminist per se because “the system” takes care of that. Call it “institutional feminism.”

    You can try and avoid all this by having a family off the grid, but that’s tough for most men — and it’s unfair (and probably unhealthy) you have to pretty much isolate your family to be free of these influences.

    And also, while feminism might not be present in the woman you meet at the bar, but it’s there in the shows she watches, the commercials she sees, and even the products she consumes. The demographics hardly matter when kids are born into this way of thinking and it becomes second nature to them. And then there’s college. And the fact that single moms are becoming more and more normalized.

  • The day that we are swimming in the antidote of feminism and it is the air we breathe will feminism be dead. It may continue under another name. But its toxic fetid essence be the same.

  • The Man Who Was . . .

    Days is right. If you hang around academia, the schools, the courts, the arts etc., there are more than enough feminists. And sometimes you want to, or have to, deal with those areas.

    But it is true that feminism is utterly powerless to keep you from getting laid, and mostly powerless to keep you from making money.

  • The Man Who Was . . .

    And, for the most part, you don’t have to deal with feminists as part of your daily life.

  • bourchakoun

    Sure the real world of making money and getting laid works far from the clutches of feminism.

    BUT – as soon as you enter a LTR or god-forbid a marriage you enter the world of feminism where even your originally traditional lovely Siberian girl gets mind-fucked by the media-female-mind-bullshit-fem-dildo-empire. How long until the divorce-incentived-fuckfest can begin? Sure – you may find a highly intelligent innerly strong sweetheart who is aware of the shanannigans, but good luck un-learning the indoctrination that a Western woman has received from birth on (go-girl-you-can-do-anything!).

    The odds are not in your favor. As a strong Alpha or a former Beta who has unleashed the Alpha – you are surrounded by the enemy everywhere, because women, especially the working kind, are subjected to other co-workers, the feminist PC workforce-environment etc. It can be done, but it is one hell of a struggle and I don’t think it is worth it for most of Alphas who thus become aging players focusing on increasing wealth to attract high quality women.

    In the end there are no winners as society is more creative and stable with individual strong loving relationships, but hey I don’t make the rules – adapt or wither like a Beta….

  • bourchakoun

    Addendum: there are winners: Apex-Alphas who decrease the population growth of the lower classes, have easier access to promiscuous women (JP Morgan and co. had to actually have steady high-paid concubines), cheaper workeforce as women provide internal wage-pressure. So yes – those are the winners of the whole system – the Eyes-Wide-Shut-Party-People.

    BTW – upper elite marriages are usually quite stable (not 100% but good). They marry other well-connected parties, sire children and fuck around on both sides for fun. Sometimes there is love between them – sometimes not. Research some of the marriages – even 150 years ago super-wealty women were allowed to have extra-marital sex as long as no children were conceived from it. That is why i.e. the British crown had Royal abortionists!

  • yuumuraj

    “This is part of the reason why I moved away from the MRA/MGTOW ‘ALL AMERICAN WOMEN ARE EVIL CUNTS DON’T GET MARRIED OR MARRY A THIRD-WORLD CHICK’ rhetoric; it doesn’t survive a basic encounter with reality.”

    Same here. Actually, divorce rates are inflated by uneducated proles and NAMs. If you’re educated and choose wisely (not feminists), you’ll probably be OK.

  • baguazhang

    Feminists and the academic left only exists when there’s a comfortable enough society to shelter them from reality. That’s why it’s so disproportionately white.

    Remember to get in their faces if they try to act feminist in real life. All the white guys I see try to reason with them, as if reason works on the unreasonable.

  • Jim

    “If you’re educated and choose wisely (not feminists), you’ll probably be OK.”

    LOL. This and Matt’s post are hilarious. Guys you are completely delusional. But go ahead and put that nose around your neck. Have fun.

  • monster221

    actually a friend of mine told me what the “there are no women on the internet” thing alludes to.

    it alludes to a saying “on the internet, women are men, men are boys and boys are FBI agents”.

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  • Warrior_Savant

    This is part of the reason why I moved away from the MRA/MGTOW “ALL AMERICAN WOMEN ARE EVIL CUNTS DON’T GET MARRIED OR MARRY A THIRD-WORLD CHICK” rhetoric; it doesn’t survive a basic encounter with reality. While most girls are psychologically damaged, they’re not sperm-stealing, ball-cutting, Dworkin-quoting, hairy-pitted succubi. Most of them are just painfully deluded idiots, and you’ll forgive me if I don’t get FUCKING! PISSED! at people whose “crime” is being credulous morons.

    I agree that it doesn’t work well in reality, but the MGTOW movement is growing. MGTOW subscribers would read the part, “most of them are just painfully deluded idiots….people whose ‘crime’ is being credulous morons.”

    The MGTOW guy is thinking, “Yeah! spot on. Do I think she’s a ball cutting succubus? No. But if she’s a deluded idiot, do I want to be married to that as an alternative?
    Hell no.
    Do I want to spend the rest of my life deprogramming and reprogramming this knit-wit? Do I want to take the chance the reprogramming may be rejected and i wind up in frivorce court? Do i want to take the chance that she’ll pass her idiocy onto our daughter/s or worse our son/s?
    Again, hell no.

    So find yourself a young, virtuous American girl who grew up in fly-over country to a loving traditional family, or find her foreign counterpart. Otherwise, you’re setting yourself up to be the next pony on some empowered broad’s carousel.

    Go your own way. Feminism; institutionalized or not, officially dies when men collectively take their ball and go home. The women who want to survive in a man’s world will come around. The hardcore feminist zealots will be found dead in their apartments after a lifetime of cat collecting.

  • James

    Hopefully the homeless person takes out a knife and stabs you to death. The world needs less scum like you breathing.

  • Retrenched

    Matt and The Man Who Was have it right.

    The less time you spend around people who are insane, the happier and better your life will be, overall. You can’t stop feminists from saying that telling a girl she’s pretty is ‘rape culture’, or that not giving your girlfriend or wife her way all the time is ‘abuse’, but you can keep them from bothering you and impacting your life personally and directly.

    Yes, college campuses, the court system and mainstream media are all hotbeds of misandry and anti-male hysteria, but there are ways to avoid them.

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  • PlainOldTruth

    The feminist I trust is the one who can go 60 minutes without telling a lie or acting out a de facto lie (mainipulation). In other words zero. Feminists even lie in their dreams.

  • PlainOldTruth

    Murder fantasy, in imagination of this individual, fills up the the gap left by the absence of the ability to think and defend a position with sound reasoning.

  • Brittny

    Hahah…love the ‘Callie Christian’ thing. Yep. I’m a Mormon housewife with two boys and one on the way. Husband and I are celebrating eight years of marriage this weekend. What amuses me is the leaking of feminist thought into the LDS (Latter Day Saint) culture. The more college educated our women become, the more they tend to put off marriage or be more selective about who they do marry. Not a hard rule, but still becoming an obvious trend. I also find it funny that some people leave our religion because of our decisive stance against same sex marriage. There are a few people who are convinced that one day our religion will proudly accept homosexual marriage, bring back polygamy, and give women the priesthood…these people who are vocally paraded by the media are not even 1% of our population and are kind of a curiosity to the majority of mormons. Funny that even though we preach love and compassion, because we do not tolerate homosexuality we are demonized and picketed. It seems we can only have one opinion nowadays in free speech America: the liberal one.

  • Corey Graham

    “The fact of the matter is that unless you’re in college, the only time you’ll regularly encounter feminists is…” Unfortunately, college is the only institution that feminists/liberals need to dominate in order to control society, because college is the bottleneck for society’s elites. If you want to be an influential journalist, CEO, or politician, you’re probably gonna have to go to college.

    As you yourself said, “You can see this pattern repeating itself not just in contemporary
    society, but throughout history: small forces defeating bigger ones
    through superior organization.” It’s not just through superior organization, but also through superior targeting. You can win against a larger army by attacking or controlling what the military calls, it’s “center of gravity.” This could be a supply line or a command center. The center for gravity in the culture war is higher education, and feminists/liberals have controlled it for the longest time.

    And while it’s true that the higher education will eventually burst, there’s nothing stopping the federal government from bailing them out, just as it repeatedly does for the public K-12 school system.

  • FreeBornPatriot

    Sadly, it was the shift in the LDS vote which brought open homosexuality into the Boy Scouts. I’m still trying to understand that. The LDS Scouters I know sure weren’t supportive of that idea.

  • Sam_Oh_OH_OOOH

    I wish you would comment more often. You are definitely the good example!

  • LHathaway

    Interesting. Mostly nonsense. It would be interesting to examine how white knights function in real life more closely.

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  • Peter

    Your section

    3. Feminism has been doomed by demographics.

    assumes that lifestyle philosophy is genetically inherited. Something like the Childfree choice. You have also assumed that choldfree = feminism. This is a false correlation. I am childfree and part of MGTOW. Definitely not a feminist.

    The statement that India dominated India with just 3,000 men is false. 1/4 of a million soldiers were stationed in India in Victorian times.

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  • Christopher C

    women cunt-troll the media in Americunt… time to wake up MANGINA.